Agenda spine

14 items as recorded in the packet and minutes.

1. A1Call to order, pledge, and agenda addition

   Workshop opening and request to add a council item on a culvert replacement cost memo.

   minutes not available in this bundle

   • meeting opening
   • culvert replacement memo

   Outcome unrecorded
   0:00↗public which is had one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all start a workshop Thursday June 8 can we open what they hit mr. Muir was overrated prior to starting with the agenda I'm wondering if we could add one item to the agenda under council items that would be 5c and it would be discussion o…

2. A2Stormwater program update

   Stormwater permit update and preparation for the required annual public meeting.

   minutes not available in this bundle

   • stormwater program

   Outcome unrecorded
   2:03↗just kind of business as usual we're in the fourth year of a five-year permit so nothing has really changed in the past four years this is a requirement of our permit with the state and just require that we annually we at least hold one public meeting and give the public an opportunity to comment on our stormwater prog…

3. A3Rademacher conditional use permit and setback deviation discussion

   Discussion of Rademacher conditional use permit items involving fuel sales, parking setback, driveway access, drainage, county review, grading on city park property, and tree replacement.

   minutes not available in this bundle; transcript discussion said the item was likely to be tabled pending county and drainage answers

   • Rademacher CUP
   • drainage
   • county review
   • tree replacement

   Outcome unrecorded
   3:49↗conditional use permit this one man Tom okker answers else's breath deviation from media five foot setback mr. Muir but I know there was a lot of questions at Planning and Zoning regarding the trees and the county's response to the roads and I was just curious if we heard anything had any updates on that nothing yet fr…20:43↗there is it there's two outstanding issues drainage in than the access and also we have to have answered before we can go all right you know this one for God like their safety it sounds like without those answers to tell the world we'll be needing them to wait for those answers and likely to be tabled again

4. A4Fee code amendment discussion

   Discussion of fee code language for City Hall rentals, senior and nonprofit use, government groups, political groups, funerals, and park concession stand nonresident fees.

   minutes not available in this bundle

   • fee code
   • facility rentals

   Outcome unrecorded
   30:42↗one of the questions that came up with the plan is owning many exhibition the there wasn't clarity prior to this it just said anybody's 62 or older got free rental of this sale and we realize that could be anybody in the county anybody in the state it wasn't didn't define it they were residents that got that and not th…38:35↗I do think we need to clean up the independent nonprofit groups not a part of city government as a way to say that that's probably better than like you said it before active within the city but not part of city government yes anything else on the piece

5. A5Rademacher/Reisler comprehensive plan amendment and rezoning discussion

   Informational discussion on Rademacher and Reisler comprehensive plan amendment and rezoning for a possible gas station, liquor store, business park area, and residential buffer.

   minutes not available in this bundle

   • Rademacher-Reisler rezoning
   • comprehensive plan
   • business park

   Outcome unrecorded
   39:17↗Rademacher race ler comp plan amendment and rezoning informational discussion mr. mayor if I'm right background fine tell really Seoul started out as 28 acre piece on dynasty race ler with mister Rademacher wishing purchase penny furs to construct the gas station and liquor store so the comprehensive plan amendment mor…41:32↗one option since I have not noticed the newspaper yet it has to be in tomorrow one option would be to submit an amended application if mr. Rademacher were okay with it to include the larger area and then notice the paper for those parcels instead of just a single person so that is an option but in general the intent is…

6. A6Minor subdivision and lot reconfiguration ordinance discussion

   Discussion of changing the minor subdivision and lot reconfiguration process so simple lot splits could be handled administratively after Planning and Zoning review and ordinance changes.

   minutes not available in this bundle

   • minor subdivision ordinance
   • lot splits

   Outcome unrecorded
   1:12:56↗minor subdivision I mean motley reconfiguring lot split mr. mayor we been here laughing I think we should move forward and change our ordinance to make down so they're done to administrative leave the end the discussion this man comes on record I agree with that as well again you know what I hear most about it Narcisse…1:14:21↗we would agree at this point on Tuesday direct staff was to prepare this Republic hearing Planning and Zoning follow hearing in and then bring it up to the next cone coming correct just one yet we're going to be behind a month though because we're going to miss price Carol's deadline for the publication so we'll take i…

7. A7Code enforcement: online auction business and interim use permit

   Code enforcement discussion about a residential online auction business, customer pickup traffic, neighborhood complaints, and whether an interim use permit should be pursued.

   minutes not available in this bundle

   • code enforcement
   • online auction business
   • interim use permit

   Outcome unrecorded
   1:15:22↗he's got a nice big building now but his neighbors are not happy because of the vehicles coming and going so I was struggling to you know I guess the first inclination is well yeah we consider this a business so we put them through the IEP process but I don't know that that's I mean other than limiting the number of da…1:27:26↗I think the distinction here - is this properties in a commercial district you're now often residential and that's why the in time use permit factors in is you're you're doing something here you've got a home-based business in a residential area and so it does set conditions by which you agree it's like a run your busi…

8. A8Code enforcement: Springer property update

   Discussion of a problem property associated with Springer, potential sale, trespassing, shooting, bonfire activity, possible fencing, grading needs, and possible open space or park dedication.

   minutes not available in this bundle

   • code enforcement
   • Springer property
   • open space

   Outcome unrecorded
   1:30:04↗I did talk to Linda Wilbur and she had loved horses Serge is very ill on her deathbed and the other one is the one causing the most problems that is resisting the sale they had a couple offers one was verbal and then the neighbor actually increased his offer and so I she stated that he was the top bidder right now and …1:32:09↗it's very close to his home and the shooting and the different stuff going on back there's there's a bonfire back there couple weeks ago it's unnerving to consider the restoration I needs to be done back there from the mining yeah absolutely there's quite a extensive amount of grading that needs to be done as far as lo…

9. A9Old Viking Boulevard and road assessment policy discussion

   Discussion of Old Viking Boulevard and broader road funding, including assessments, levy options, feasibility study, pavement overlay, and future municipal state aid eligibility.

   minutes not available in this bundle

   • Old Viking Boulevard
   • road assessments
   • levy
   • road maintenance

   Outcome unrecorded
   1:34:29↗I have is you know we have we have had conversations about roads and what not how to assess and how to pay for them you know it's just again something that we are so we're looking at you know the residents who are on old biking to pay the full brunt amount or is where do we really really need to look at a different mea…1:42:40↗old Viking is kind of designated as a collector role we have a few in the city that could meet that but once our population reaches 5,000 will be eligible for municipal state aid money and that would be one of the roads that we could use that money also rules like old biking the salt anything that's more more more than…

10. A10Finance report and requests for council action

    Finance report and council action items, including water testing, EDA checking account, donations for fire radios, liquor licenses, July 3 office closure, park coverage, dirt work, capital planning assistance, and temporary office coverage.

    minutes not available in this bundle

    • finance report
    • fire radios
    • city office closure
    • capital planning

    Outcome unrecorded
    1:54:50↗excellent financial report mr. mayor canceled inspection on the finance report kappa we go what's up with the water oh yeah every two parts water the basis of all the tests anymore there's a public use and some reason it didn't happen1:59:53↗the present resolution is to accept the young donations from the lines of the center point energy and cut that to the radios and the only node I had there on the center point they want to actually present the check themselves the council meeting in July others to take care of it2:01:24↗we have a request to close the city offices when July 3rd with that some coverage for the parks being a busy weekend it does make sense to him somebody doing something in the parks throughout the weekend the crash to build up yet some discussions and fast2:09:23↗we actually have another request for counsel action that COI did contact me and we agreed could be put in here and F to score be Lauren being out of town next week and Cory having emergency situation come up you need to cover the office has agreed to office out of our office during that time period

11. A11Recycling center bids

    Open discussion of bids and options for work at the recycling center.

    minutes not available in this bundle

    • recycling center
    • bids

    Outcome unrecorded
    2:11:51↗and they only get one bit and that was it one and that's to constructor 44 / 4584 addition to the melon recycling center for seventy four thousand eight and twenty nine they did not provide us with the other two good for Direction work and brought you elders their source for you take today2:12:46↗okay so they have a couple different things here on this number one they have a square cut big 400 and it must be I think in this what it is or Novus putting a supporting according I would say that's a hundred and twenty nine thousand nine hundred and thirty five now they also have a second option of a court real puddi…

12. A12Budget workshop scheduling and capital fund discussion

    Discussion of budget workshop dates, proposed budget materials, assessor issues, and possible creation of a blanket capital fund.

    minutes not available in this bundle

    • budget
    • capital fund

    Outcome unrecorded
    2:15:37↗a budget meeting you Corey I can run and grab it the things I had in there might want to take note but Mary should know is there's several different meanings for the Lions in the next two months and the Heritage so it looks like Wednesday's are the better of the day2:25:25↗right now you have a June 1917 7:00 p.m. we've estimated do we want to pull forward and put them on the calendar summer people summer calendars get very busy why don't the third is out can I look at again the 17th of July keeping it on Mondays month later that acceptable right now 17th of July Monday no I yeah 7x and I…2:27:28↗I did talk to mr. football well that and we could essentially create a banach capital fund that's just the blanket happened last that we can transfer money to

13. A13Culvert replacement cost memo

    The added culvert replacement cost memo item was not discussed because council members noted an agreement about not presenting new information without prior approval.

    minutes not available in this bundle; transcript states the discussion was not taken up

    • culvert replacement memo
    • agenda procedure

    Outcome unrecorded
    1:57:53↗there was Mary asked to put the cost of cola replacement on the item here and I you know again it's new information that we certainly can can discuss I was gonna bring it up under the claims history I don't know if this is the same thing you were talking about the evacuation excavation cost replace Jarvis culvert and w…1:58:34↗but Mary did weird did we not make her did some make a motion that we can't do that and now we're it again changing their roles because I don't get it something some have to abide by the rules that were set for us and the motions that were made but others don't a motion was made that no new information could be present…2:28:52↗and I apologize for saying we're going to go with a covert discussion but they'll abide by what we agreed on and that's what I have for tonight's meeting so I move to adjourn

14. A14Adjournment

    Adjournment at about 9:30 p.m.

    minutes not available in this bundle

    • adjournment

    Outcome unrecorded
    2:29:08↗so I move to adjourn [Music] 9:30

Issues addressed

What this meeting did about specific topics, organized by issue rather than by document.

• Stormwater public meeting requirement

  The council reviewed the city’s stormwater permit status and the annual requirement to hold a public meeting so residents can comment on the stormwater program.

  Agenda: A2. Speakers: staff, council.

• Rademacher conditional use permits at Bill’s site

  The council discussed unresolved drainage, access, county-review, grading, setback, and tree-replacement questions tied to Rademacher’s conditional use permit and setback requests; the workshop discussion indicated the item would likely wait for county and engineering answers.

  Agenda: A3. Speakers: Mayor, Planner Stockman, Engineer Nelson, Councilmember Bettinger.

• City Hall and concession stand rental fees

  The council discussed clarifying who qualifies for no-charge City Hall use and how fees should apply to residents, nonresidents, seniors, funerals, government groups, political groups, and nonprofit groups active in the city.

  Agenda: A4. Speakers: Mayor, Councilmember Breyen, staff.

• Rademacher/Reisler rezoning and business park concept

  The council reviewed whether a 10-acre Rademacher gas station and liquor store request should proceed alone or be expanded with Reisler’s larger nearby land concept for a business park and residential buffer.

  Agenda: A5. Speakers: Planner Stockman, Mr. Reisler, Mr. Rademacher, adjacent property owner, council.

• Administrative lot split ordinance

  Council members supported exploring an ordinance change so routine minor subdivisions and lot reconfigurations could be handled administratively, with Planning and Zoning to discuss it before formal ordinance drafting.

  Agenda: A6. Speakers: council, Planner Stockman.

• Residential online auction business

  The council discussed neighborhood complaints about pickup traffic from a residential online auction business and advised that an interim use permit could protect the operator and set public conditions for the business.

  Agenda: A7. Speakers: Planner Stockman, Tony, Councilmember Bettinger, Councilmember Brian, Mayor.

• Springer property sale and trespassing concerns

  Staff updated the council on efforts to force a decision on a potential sale of the Springer property, where trespassing, shooting, bonfires, and grading restoration were concerns, and noted a possible buyer might fence the property and preserve open space.

  Agenda: A8. Speakers: Planner Stockman, council.

• Old Viking Boulevard and road funding policy

  The council debated whether road work such as Old Viking Boulevard should be paid through assessments, a levy, or a combination, and discussed a feasibility study and future policy meeting to compare project types and cost splits.

  Agenda: A9. Speakers: Councilmember Rickard, Councilmember Bettinger, Engineer Nelson, Mayor.

• Finance report and routine council action items

  The council reviewed finance-related questions and upcoming action items including water testing, fire radio donations, licenses, July 3 office closure coverage, dirt work, capital planning assistance, and short-term office coverage.

  Agenda: A10. Speakers: staff, council.

• Recycling center bids

  The council reviewed bid information and options for the recycling center, with several construction and footing/core-drilling figures read into the record and staff offering to circulate copies.

  Agenda: A11. Speakers: council, staff.

• Budget workshop scheduling and capital fund

  The council discussed setting June and July budget workshop dates, the order for reviewing funds, assessor-related information, and the possibility of creating a blanket capital fund for future transfers.

  Agenda: A12. Speakers: staff, council.

• Culvert replacement memo procedure

  Although the culvert replacement cost memo was added at the start, the council did not take it up after members objected that it was new information not approved for discussion under their prior agreement.

  Agenda: A13. Speakers: Mayor, Councilmember Breyen.

Motions and votes

1 motion on the record. Split votes are highlighted.

• M1I move to adjourn

  Passed

  2:29:08↗so I move to adjourn [Music] 9:30

Money discussed

Each figure links back to the document it came from. When the council voted on the amount, the motion is shown.

• F1

  Proposed or discussed fee for City Hall rental by a resident younger than 62.

  fee · City Hall rental

  $50

  inflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  31:21↗clarification on item 24 a H for City Hall resident younger than 62 is $50 City Hall non-resident is $150

• F2

  Proposed or discussed fee for City Hall rental by a nonresident.

  fee · City Hall rental

  $150

  inflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  31:21↗clarification on item 24 a H for City Hall resident younger than 62 is $50 City Hall non-resident is $150

• F3

  Proposed or discussed nonresident fee for the park concession stand.

  fee · Park concession stand rental

  $50

  inflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  32:41↗there wasn't a designation before in the park concession stand for non-resident so they had a non-resident for $50.00

• F4

  Engineer was asked about a prior estimate to overlay or reclaim/overlay Old Viking Boulevard.

  estimate · Old Viking Boulevard road work

  $500,000

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  1:40:07↗since your last study I believe was in 2000 was updated in 2015 I remember right where it was estimated that to reach to overlay old biking was around a half a million dollars

• F5

  Council discussion included spending about two thousand dollars for a feasibility study with a 50/50 split scenario.

  estimate · Old Viking Boulevard feasibility study

  $2,000

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  1:48:15↗what the matter did have them do spend the two thousand have a feasibility study done have it done with a 50/50 split only directly access onto the old Viking Boulevard

• F6

  Discussion of a 50/50 road funding scenario described about a quarter million dollars for residents on the road.

  assessment · Old Viking Boulevard resident assessment scenario

  $250,000

  inflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  1:52:46↗certainly we'd have to know that if you're talking if we could do 50/50 and you're talking a quarter million dollars for the residents on the road accordingly downs for the city we'd have to determine how we get that money

• F7

  Discussion of a 50/50 road funding scenario described about a quarter million dollars for the city share.

  capital_project · Old Viking Boulevard city share scenario

  $250,000

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  1:52:52↗and you're talking a quarter million dollars for the residents on the road accordingly downs for the city we'd have to determine how we get that money because raising the levy by quarter million dollars

• F8

  Capital planning discussion used a future fire truck replacement need as an example of an item that cannot be planned only five years ahead.

  capital_project · Fire truck replacement planning

  $350,000

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  2:06:43↗you can't wait till five years before your fire truck needs for your place all to shoot in five years we need three hundred fifty thousand dollars just ain't going to work

• F9

  Reported bid to construct an addition to the recycling center.

  contract · Recycling center addition bid

  $74,829

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  2:11:51↗and they only get one bit and that was it one and that's to constructor 44 / 4584 addition to the melon recycling center for seventy four thousand eight and twenty nine

• F10

  Reported square-cut footing option amount in recycling center discussion.

  estimate · Recycling center option

  $129,935

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  2:12:46↗they have a square cut big 400 and it must be I think in this what it is or Novus putting a supporting according I would say that's a hundred and twenty nine thousand nine hundred and thirty five

• F11

  Reported core-drilling option amount in recycling center discussion.

  estimate · Recycling center option

  $137,556

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  2:13:10↗now they also have a second option of a court real pudding and that's for a hundred and thirty seven thousand five hundred and fifty six

• F12

  Reported bid number two amount in recycling center discussion.

  estimate · Recycling center bid number two

  $17,500

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  2:13:29↗now for the bid number two they've got seventeen thousand five hundred dollars

• F13

  Reported bid number three square-cut footing amount in recycling center discussion.

  estimate · Recycling center bid number three square-cut footing

  $145,410

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  2:13:38↗and then for bid number three they have four square cut footing one hundred and forty five thousand four hundred and ten dollars

• F14

  Reported bid number three core-drilling amount in recycling center discussion.

  estimate · Recycling center bid number three core drilling

  $153,031

  outflow

  Council approval status: not yet on record.

  2:13:44↗for core drilling one hundred and fifty three thousand thirty one dollars

Memory cues and prior history

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• I'm sure grant remembers it and we had a meeting years ago back and build for some but that's you know back then that was a discussion that that driveway come out on a common property line there and the two would be combined into one the city access to loop the accidents were not allowed become one

  What this is about
  Prior discussions about combining the Bill’s and city access driveways for the private frontage road system.

  10:58↗I'm sure grant remembers it and we had a meeting years ago back and build for some but that's you know back then that was a discussion that that driveway come out on a common property line there and the two would be combined into one the city access to loop the accidents were not allowed become one

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• that was kind of a plan going back probably twelve thirteen years ago now for that private frontage road system

  — Engineer Nelson

  What this is about
  Long-standing plan for a private frontage road system near the Rademacher/Bill’s development.

  12:52↗like councilmember Bettinger stages that was kind of a plan going back probably twelve thirteen years ago now for that private frontage road system

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• I think the intention was if I recall right we wanted it to be groups that were within the city rather than any any group could rent it if you were 62 or a non-profit

  What this is about
  Prior intent behind the fee-code language for nonprofit groups using City Hall.

  31:44↗I think the intention was if I recall right we wanted it to be groups that were within the city rather than any any group could rent it if you were 62 or a non-profit

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• did you indicate that when green birds took down the house on the corner then amygdala display lot because you did not find any calculations on them

  What this is about
  Prior drainage records or calculations related to Greenberg’s display lot after a house was removed around 2006 to 2008.

  26:11↗do you indicate that when green birds took down the house on the corner then amygdala display lot because you did not find any calculations on them so mother Dana gender yeah that is correct I don't have any files from peers that happen around 2006 2008

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• you know we have we have had conversations about roads and what not how to assess and how to pay for them

  — Councilmember Rickard

  What this is about
  Past council conversations on how to assess and pay for road work.

  1:34:29↗I have is you know we have we have had conversations about roads and what not how to assess and how to pay for them

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• I believe that you send some information out about assessments and I tried to go back and find it

  — Councilmember Breyen

  What this is about
  Prior information sent to council about assessments.

  1:36:04↗I believe that you send some information out about assessments and I tried to go back and find it and I exercise I even trying to take figure out what month that once we talked about

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• we should spot spoken about nets numerous times and it's time to get off the diamond and do something

  What this is about
  Repeated earlier council discussion about road assessments without a decision.

  1:36:32↗again as you said mr. Rickard your customer record we should spot spoken about nets numerous times and it's time to get off the diamond and do something

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• we've had a capital criminal finally became a city we had Catholic we're gonna play enter all our roads and they cook when everything is just as men yep everything has been kept up-to-date

  — Councilmember Brian

  What this is about
  Existing or past city capital improvement plans for roads and equipment.

  2:06:07↗we've had a capital criminal finally became a city we had Catholic we're gonna play enter all our roads and they cook when everything is just as men yep everything has been kept up-to-date

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• I was just went by with what our CPA told us when he gave us the presentation on the on our financial picture

  — Councilmember Bettinger

  What this is about
  Prior CPA advice on the length of a capital plan.

  2:07:00↗just went by with what our CPA told us when he gave us the presentation on the on our financial picture we can negotiate how long it is for

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• a motion was made that no new information could be presented unless it was approved by it was wrap later by your quarry it was not approved by you of quarry before tonight it should be added was our agreement

  What this is about
  Prior motion or agreement limiting new information at workshops unless approved beforehand.

  1:58:59↗a motion was made that no new information could be presented unless it was approved by it was wrap later by your quarry it was not approved by you of quarry before tonight it should be added was our agreement

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Sources

Every document and recording archived for this meeting.

• Document

  City Council Workshop — 2017-06-08 CC Workshop Minutes (2017-06-08)

  Minutes · 2017-06-08

  15 pages

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• Video

  Meeting recording

  YouTube

  Transcript · 973 segments · 2:29:13

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